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Revman Zim
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:50:22 -
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I feel it necessary to participate in this important moment in EVE.
FANTASTIC JOB CCP! And kudos to any CSM members that fought for this change.
A very courageous decision that I believe will improve the game over time. Those ISboxer accounts that are about to be unsubbed added no content to the game and had a negative impact on the economy and some major fleet fights. If 100,000 isboxer accounts are replaced by just 5000 (#'s not important, ratio is) new player accounts then this is a huge win for the game.
This demonstrates that CCP values the quality of EVE over their bottom line. I am very confident this will pay dividends in the future. |
Revman Zim
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:53:23 -
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Nolak Ataru wrote:virm pasuul wrote:
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From your post it's difficult to work out which side of the fence you sit on.
You start off seeming to critcize the change.
You then go on to make a load of points illustrating why the change is a good thing for Eve.
Could you clarify please?
I'm personally against the change completely. I'm more annoyed at the lack of talk from CCP to the multibox community to see if a compromise could be reached (see: jump drives, bombers, nearly every other change) because I don't believe the current CSM has any multiboxers on it. I would have been willing to accept a ban on using ISBoxer to PVP with the exceptions involving defending oneself from invading forces in a WH / Null site, but CCP doesn't care.
Why would CCP engage in dialog with cheaters and EULA violaters? Their point of view is irrelevant since their actions harm the game.
Kinda like trying to compromise with a pedophile. |
Revman Zim
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Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.26 19:46:38 -
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I applaud what CCP is doing. This change is part of a larger plan that started back when the decision was made to drop WOD and focus on EVE Online.
Instead of trying to do a half-assed job on several products, they are focusing their talents and attention on making ONE product the best it can be. (Sorry DUST). You may not agree with their changes but you cannot fault them for their attempt.
If you take a step back and look at what has been implemented and what is coming, CCP is trying to fix a lot of the imbalances in the game so it is more attractive to a larger pool of players. ISboxer programs, botting, RMT, are bad for any game. It takes away from the average player experience.
In addition, the force projection changes and upcoming SOV changes will hopefully make nullsec more diverse. All the other smaller changes are to make the game more balanced, immersive and prettier to look at. All good things.
I also believe the change in the way CCP rolls out updates was designed to accelerate this evolution.
Overall, i like where they are headed. It would be incredible if a couple years from now I log on and there are 50k players online which actually represents 50k people behind their keyboards mining, building, fighting, scamming, and most importantly, ENJOYING EVE.
tl; dr - This is a small step in a grand plan on making EVE Online attractive to a wider player base. |
Revman Zim
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:53:13 -
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To all the players threatening to unsub their 2 dozen accounts because they can't cheat anymore with ISBoxer, realize that no one cares.
Your accounts do nothing for the game. They do not independently interact with game or other players. As it has been already pointed out, the PLEX used for those accounts will still be in the game and cash in CCP's wallet. Your presence is not needed for EVE to survive and prosper. In fact, with you gone the game is immediately better.
In order for a threat to work you have to be worth something to someone. ISBoxers have no value except to themselves. |
Revman Zim
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.26 22:26:07 -
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Radkiel wrote:Revman Zim wrote:To all the players threatening to unsub their 2 dozen accounts because they can't cheat anymore with ISBoxer, realize that no one cares.
Your accounts do nothing for the game. They do not independently interact with game or other players. As it has been already pointed out, the PLEX used for those accounts will still be in the game and cash in CCP's wallet. Your presence is not needed for EVE to survive and prosper. In fact, with you gone the game is immediately better.
In order for a threat to work you have to be worth something to someone. ISBoxers have no value except to themselves. So you stopped by to tell us you don't care?
Typical ISBoxer reply. Cherry-pick a phrase and twist.
I believe wrote that NO ONE cares if they unsub their accounts.
But I will clarify. No one cares that YOU will be unsubbbing your accounts. You add nothing to the game and YOU and the rest of your ilk will not be missed. Your leaving will have no negative impact on EVE Online or CCP's finances. You have zero worth to the EVE Universe. |
Revman Zim
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.26 22:57:04 -
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Hafwolf wrote:Hey just a simple question I don't think the dev's will ever read this but.
Input Multiplexing my understanding that means taking multiple sources into one screen. So using ISboxer, eve window helper or any other program to arrange displays of multiple characters and information onto one screen is against the EULA. In ISboxer you can use the Video FX to put overviews and mod buttons in the screen of the first pilot or on a black screen. My understanding this is now against the Rules. Even though I am clicking on a video feed of the second toon this can be considered multiplexing. Am I right in this Understanding of the new EULA.
Thank you
Read page 1 of this thread. |
Revman Zim
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.26 23:20:24 -
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Hafwolf wrote:I have read it. I am asking if this is correct interpretation of the word.
I run 3 account in eve I use eve window helper or IS boxer to see my screens. My understanding is that doing this is now wrong. I ask the GM for some clearance on this was told to post my questions on this forum. My reading that page sounds like anything form having a local of a scout on the same screen as a main is now against the EULA.
From the first post on the first page:
Examples of allowed Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing are actions taken that do not have an impact on the EVE universe and are carried out for convenience:
GÇóEVE Online client settings-á
GÇóWindow positions and arrangements (of the EVE Online client in your operating systemGÇÖs desktop environment)
GÇóThe login process-á
Reading is hard. |
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